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Astaro ASG220 Rev2 vs Sophos UTM120

UK-BLOKE
Hi,

Does anyone know the CPU specification of the old Astaro ASG220 Rev2 (with the Astaro 512MB RAM upgrade to 1GB).

I need to connect a new office and I'm wondering if I'm better off bringing an old ASG220 out of retirement to run UTM9, or would I be better of buying a new Sophos UTM120.

Basically, which is the more powerful device?.

Thanks!


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    Hi, the 220 should have a faster CPU.

    Barry
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    with both having 2 gigs of ram the older 220 will be faster.. depending on your config..UTM9 has serious ram usage issues...how are you going to be setting this up?  which features..wan speed...number of active users through the gateway?

    Owner:  Emmanuel Technology Consulting

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    Former Sophos SG(Astaro) advocate/researcher/Silver Partner

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    Guys, is the old 220 really faster than a new 120?  Comparing Nov.2008 and Nov.2012 sizing guides side-by-side, I get the impression that it's the other way around.  In any case, even if the only subscription purchased is Network Protection, a new 120 pays for itself when you buy the second year - and upfront if a three-year subscription is purchased.

    Another issue would be whether the old 220 was replaced by a new 220 at a reduced cost - in which case it would not be eligible for relicensing.

    Cheers - Bob
     
    Sophos UTM Community Moderator
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    the 120's atom isn't going to hold a candle to the 220's p-4.  It all depends on what he is going to use the device 4.  if he is NOT looking to do ips then the highly threaded but slower cpu instruction per second per core will favor the atom.  The instant he wants to do ips and/or more than say 5 users with a/v on the p-4 is going to be a better bet because the p-4 is going to handle the serial nature of ips and a/v scanning than the 120 powered atom is going to.  Also iirc that p-4 is HT enabled so it gets a boost from threaded things..but it's true strength is ips and a/v scanning..[:)]

    you can read this post whre i explain the difference performance factors to consider when ips is involved:
    https://community.sophos.com/products/unified-threat-management/astaroorg/f/52/t/28468

    Owner:  Emmanuel Technology Consulting

    http://etc-md.com

    Former Sophos SG(Astaro) advocate/researcher/Silver Partner

    PfSense w/Suricata, ntopng, 

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  • 0 in reply to William Warren
    Hi,

    We have the UTM 220 rev5 and it has an Intel Celron CPU - Unfortunately I don't know the exact specifics as I wasn't paying as much attention in the bios. Hope this helps
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    the rev5 is a different set of hardware than the v2..[:)]

    Owner:  Emmanuel Technology Consulting

    http://etc-md.com

    Former Sophos SG(Astaro) advocate/researcher/Silver Partner

    PfSense w/Suricata, ntopng, 

    Other addons to follow

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    Hi,

    Does anyone know the CPU specification of the old Astaro ASG220 Rev2 (with the Astaro RAM upgrade to 2GB).

    I need to connect a new office and I'm wondering if I'm better off bringing an old ASG220 out of retirement to run UTM9, or would I be better of buying a new Sophos UTM120.

    Basically, which is the more powerful device?.

    Thanks!


    Depends on the features, you're going to use, bandwidth, etc. --- you should contact your local partner for help with this.  The UTM120, believe it or not (just because it has 2GB of RAM in it, as opposed to only 1GB in that Rev. 2 box, if it even has that) would be a better choice out of the 2, but still may not be the right choice.  You may need more processing power, depends on usage... may need a UTM220, etc.

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    https://www.convergesecurity.com

    Advice given as posted on this forum does not construe a support relationship or other relationship with Convergent Information Security Solutions, LLC or its subsidiaries.  Use the advice given at your own risk.

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    Not really.  The atom isn't going to out process the p-4 in ips..it simply isn't..[:)]

    Owner:  Emmanuel Technology Consulting

    http://etc-md.com

    Former Sophos SG(Astaro) advocate/researcher/Silver Partner

    PfSense w/Suricata, ntopng, 

    Other addons to follow

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    Astaro ASG220 Rev2 (with the Astaro RAM upgrade to 2GB).  Now if the old 220 is an atom then my whole missive is out the door..then yes a 320(or custom hardwre is my reccomendation with caveats) is going to be the way to go..[:)]  BUT according to this thread the old 220 has a 2.8 ghz p-4 and the atom isn't going to handle the ips load anywhere near as well as that p-4.  IPS is a single threaded killer and the only way to make that go fast is high raw clockspeed..Internal IPC efficiencies can help in modern cpus but again it's raw clockspeed for single threaded and/or serialized data loads...something the atom doesn't have..also the atom is geared towards threaded processes..something ips does NOT do.  also a/v scanning is highly serial in nature and again only raw clock speed can get around that.  in these two areas advantage p-4 by a mile.  The only way to get around it is custom hardware with a fast DC pentium or core cpu.  I would not recommend AMD in a custom box as this time as they are relaly nothing more than atoms on steroids with the same types of limitations.

    Owner:  Emmanuel Technology Consulting

    http://etc-md.com

    Former Sophos SG(Astaro) advocate/researcher/Silver Partner

    PfSense w/Suricata, ntopng, 

    Other addons to follow

  • 0 in reply to William Warren
    William, Astaro never had an official RAM upgrade program that upgraded a 220 to 2GB of RAM... I think that's the point you are missing.  They had a RAM upgrade program that took 512MB devices up to 1GB.

    You can upgrade some of the older ASG220 units to 2GB, some you can't... but if you upgrade one without official Sophos Support sanctioning it, you run the risk of voiding your support agreements.

    CTO, Convergent Information Security Solutions, LLC

    https://www.convergesecurity.com

    Advice given as posted on this forum does not construe a support relationship or other relationship with Convergent Information Security Solutions, LLC or its subsidiaries.  Use the advice given at your own risk.

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