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STAS issues with Web protection Policy

Hello,

i have an big problem at a customer site. 

We switched from UTM to Sophos XGS. We have configured STAS. There is a rule for Internet HTTP/HTTPS access. The rule is open for everyone.

I have configured a Web protection Policy. On top everybody can access defined sites. after that there is a rule with defined AD Groups that can access all sites.

The issue now is that some users are randomly logged out an can not access the sites. We noticed in the morning that a user is logged out several times on firewall for about 30 minutes and than after that point it was stable. The time range is always an other.

I checked the WMI connectivity from STAS the client ips the users with the issue connects from. Everything works.

I dont know from there the problem comes.

I also opened a ticket, but i hope someone can give me a hint where problem maybe comes from.

Thanks in advance

Andreas



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  • Disable the Inactivity detection on the firewall - Leave it on in STAS.

    Set the restriction on probe to NO on the firewall.

    Check the GPO as described above. 

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  • Ok. this is how i have configured it at the customer site.

    I tested with an pc which has the issue. The WMI Check from the support article was successful.

    I then checked the Logs on the STAS.

    Following happend:

    the user was logged in an this came in log from stas:

    DEBUG [0x1090] 15.12.2022 10:25:44 : userdb_handle_duplicate_userinfo: userinfo matched

    DEBUG [0x1090] 15.12.2022 10:25:44 : userdb_insert_userinfo: matching userinfo found

    So everything seems ok.

    Then later came this on the same Workstation IP

    MSG [0x10e8] 15.12.2022 11:28:03 : init_userinfo_kerberos: UserName: ADMINISTRATOR

    MSG [0x10e8] 15.12.2022 11:28:03 : init_userinfo_kerberos: DomainName: domain

    MSG [0x10e8] 15.12.2022 11:28:03 : init_userinfo_kerberos: IPv6 WorkstationIP: :

    MSG [0x10e8] 15.12.2022 11:28:03 : init_userinfo_kerberos: IPv4 WorkstationIP: x.x.x.x

    DEBUG [0x1090] 15.12.2022 11:28:03 : userdb_handle_duplicate_userinfo: select query: SELECT * FROM UserInfo WHERE wrkst_ip=='x.x.x.x';

    DEBUG [0x1090] 15.12.2022 11:28:03 : userdb_handle_duplicate_userinfo: User 'domain.local\user1' found on 'x.x.x.x'

    DEBUG [0x1090] 15.12.2022 11:28:03 : userdb_handle_duplicate_userinfo: userinfo not matched

    MSG [0x1090] 15.12.2022 11:28:03 : wrkstpoll_handle_logoff_req: Request received from Logoff Detector

    The customer says that no Login from Administrator was made. Is it possible that a monitoring software or something like this authenticates against the PC and then STAS uses this user as logged in user?

    Should i set an exclusion for this kind of users (service users) ?

  • Likely you should disable service users in STAS to avoid such login monitoring. 

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  • So it's likely that this is the problem?

  • Just another question. Multiple Logins with same user on different Workstations is a problem?

  • STAS will only reflect the recent Login and replace those. WMI will only offer one Login, so the recent login is verified and if this does not match with the current user, it will be logged off. 

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  • Sorry i have just another question. There are 2 Domaincontrollers. I have installed on both the STAS Suite and not on one only the agent. Is this ok so or is it neccessary to install only on one Domaincontroller the Suite and on the other only STAS Agent?