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HIGH Alert - Real time protection disabled... and Sophos is always wrong.

Getting pretty annoyed by these false HIGH ALERTS from Sophos. Here's a log from only a single computer over the past week:

Notice how there's an update that's pushed through which probably takes 2 minutes to actually install on the users computer. Since the update is being applied, most likely the Sophos services have to quickly restart, so Sophos stupidly thinks that REAL TIME PROTECTION HAS BEEN DISABLED, OH MY GOD BETTER SEND AN ALERT! This is pretty idiotic behavior.

The user doesn't have the ability to disable Real Time Protection anyway and based on the log files, it's very clear that the update itself is what's disabling the protection, and it's only disabling it for as long as it takes to apply the update.

Why does this happen?

As far as the alert itself, I'd love to disable these email alerts but as noted in my other thread at:

https://community.sophos.com/products/sophos-central/f/sophos-central/96169/email-notifications-for-different-alerts-to-different-groups---not-possible

Sophos central doesn't give you a way to disable these alerts or send them to different people! These design decisions are baffling and frustrating.



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  • Do you know if this is happening just on an ide update?

    Do you have the SAV install logs from an update when this has happened you could share?

    Regards,

    Jak

  • I am getting these too.

     

    Is there a Fix for these alerts?

  • I'm having the same issue, did you get some answer from Sophos support? This is really stupid

  • Nope, no resolution to this. It still happens occasionally, about once every couple of weeks to a random computer. I actually just ignore these alert emails now. It's still incredibly stupid that you have no control over who gets what emails sent to them from Sophos Central. Everyone gets everything regardless of the severity - it's just so low-rent and stupid. We probably won't be re-upping with Sophos when our contract is up because of little stuff like this.

    Sophos Support is laughably bad, I think in my post history you'll see my complaints about them. I made such a big stink about how unhappy we are with Sophos Support with our reseller that I actually got the personal email address of one of the head support guys. I've haven't had a big enough problem to use it and I'm not entirely confident it'll get me anywhere either.

  • I will second that, Sophos support is the worst in history.

    I also get that error from time to time and it never makes any sense why it happens at random like this.

  • Hi  

    Apologies for any inconvenience. We would like to get this checked for you. Could you please help with the screenshot of the alert you are receiving and possibly the SAV update logs from the machine on which you are getting this error. 

    Shweta

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  • Are these the actual software updates?  Not just the definition ones?  I believe you can control the software updates install schedule.  I am merely suggesting there may be a way to have better control of when they happen to better know which ones you should be aware of.  Also, without the alert a hacker could exploit the code to initialize an update thus stopping the service and then executing their attack.  Personally I see no issue with extra logging or alerts.  But I do agree that there should be an alert to say it has restarted right after that and or some type of notification that would help so you know it is normal.  Maybe even sending one every ten minutes until the alert is cleared so if you see one and then don't see one ten minutes later you would know it is fine.

     

    Respectfully, 

     

    Badrobot

     

  • Given that the status gets to Central, I would suggest enabling MCS trails.  That way you will have the history of all status messages sent.  This has to be for the SAV component and it has to be reporting that on-access is false.

    How to enable trails is here:

    https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/119608

    Once you see the issue, ideally maybe a couple of times, can you look for the SAV status messages.  What is the scenario when the on-access is reported as disabled?  Is it at startup for example?  Is the message followed up shortly after with a status message where on-access is reported as enabled?

    Regards,
    Jak

  • MCS trails are very informative, thanks for sharing this tip, but it really shouldn't be this hard...

    This feature should be an option in the UI, we shouldn't have to dig for it at the workstation, these are your executables and services, so this should be a management option directly from Central like this:

    Michael