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invisible outgoing email saturating upload

Mast_01
i'm having a problem with yahoo mailservers which constanly delay mail and as such my upload es getting hammered by ASG which continuously retries even when the remote server turns a deferred return or broken pipe.

yesterday i saw the offending mail in the smtp spool in the mail manager and deleted, all is well until some hours after in which the upload is getting hammered again by the same type of traffic but this time the spool is EMPTY(same with the counters on the webadmin).

but i'm still getting:
0-03-10 13:50:02 128VTn-0006TK-0o Remote host d.mx.mail.yahoo.com [209.191.88.254] closed connection in response to end of data
2010:03:10-13:54:01 astaro exim[19951]: 2010-03-10 13:54:01 128VTn-0006TK-0o Remote host f.mx.mail.yahoo.com [98.137.54.237] closed connection in response to end of data
2010:03:10-13:54:01 astaro exim[19950]: 2010-03-10 13:54:01 128VTn-0006TK-0o == address@yahoo.com.ar R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-18): Remote host f.mx.mail.yahoo.com [98.137.54.237] closed connection in response to end of data
2010:03:10-13:54:01 astaro exim[19949]: 2010-03-10 13:54:01 End queue run: pid=19949
2010:03:10-13:55:00 astaro exim[20294]: 2010-03-10 13:55:00 Start queue run: pid=20294
2010:03:10-13:55:02 astaro exim[20296]: 2010-03-10 13:55:02 128VTn-0006TK-0o SMTP error from remote mail server after initial connection: host e.mx.mail.yahoo.com [67.195.168.230]: 421 Message from (200.69.233.115) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html 

and the pc who sent the mails still gets delayed messages even though the mail was supposedly deleted.

what's going on?, how can i kill/flush the queue for real(and why are the logs so... useless to trace problems...)


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    That's not the philosophy i was looking for.  i didn't want to rate limit them just have it be a lower priority.

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  • 0 in reply to William Warren
    William, it's only a workaround, to be sure -- but this will at least keep my customer from choking themselves off from the internet should one of them slip up and send a large email to a yahoo.com email address.  I'm sure they're working on a better, permanent fix.

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  • 0 in reply to William Warren
    William, it's only a workaround, to be sure -- but this will at least keep my customer from choking themselves off from the internet should one of them slip up and send a large email to a yahoo.com email address.  I'm sure they're working on a better, permanent fix.

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  • 0 in reply to BrucekConvergent
    I know this is not the solution but I always use a smarthost for outgoing email along with QoS for smtp. That way the email is sent once from astaro and yahoo can play games with the smarthost. If your ISP doesn't provide one, use gmail as your smarthost.
  • 0 in reply to Billybob
    use gmail as your smarthost.

    I'd like to do that for a charity that I donate my time to.  What's the trick?

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  • 0 in reply to BAlfson
    I'd like to do that for a charity that I donate my time to.  What's the trick?

    Cheers - Bob


    I haven't played it with much but in your gmail account settings, you can enable pop access which enables clients like outlook etc to connect to gmail using pop and enables smtp for outbound access.
    Only thing I am not sure about is that if it puts yourname@gmail.com as the sender of the mail every time.[:P]
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