Well I have been trying to get soemone to send or call me with any type of info and pricing on any product for about 5 days now. Havnt heard a peep. As for selling SNORT updates.... I am truly curious why anyone would pay to update SNORT rules....they are free. This is the last product I need to compare before final purchase. Been looking at SonicWall and SnapGear too, at this rate SnapGear is seeming pretty good.
From my point of view, they will use almost the same prices like they have for the current version. The home user license will be for free and these users will be able to buy the anti-virus and surf-protection option for a small amount of money (49 Euro each). No worry; they did it well with version 4 so trust them.
That may be true but i have yet to hear from my sales contact or from ASL on this board. The only thing we have to go on for sure is the press release..which seeming as they want to charge for snort updates when you can get those for free..bothers me a bit..other than that issue..ASL 5 looks like a good product so far.
[ QUOTE ] That may be true but i have yet to hear from my sales contact or from ASL on this board. The only thing we have to go on for sure is the press release..which seeming as they want to charge for snort updates when you can get those for free..bothers me a bit..other than that issue..ASL 5 looks like a good product so far.
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Well in fairness to ASL, I do not think they are charging specifically for the snort updates, but instead charging for the update service. RedHat does this, so do many other business companies. Most of those updates are free, however what you are paying for is the convience of One-Stop shopping per se. You can pretty much build everything Astaro offers for free (minus the nice web UI). However what ASL offers is a tested, very easy to implement, secure, system. You can achieve this on your own, however it does require ALOT of work to do well.
[ QUOTE ] That may be true but i have yet to hear from my sales contact or from ASL on this board. The only thing we have to go on for sure is the press release..which seeming as they want to charge for snort updates when you can get those for free..bothers me a bit..other than that issue..ASL 5 looks like a good product so far.
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Well in fairness to ASL, I do not think they are charging specifically for the snort updates, but instead charging for the update service. RedHat does this, so do many other business companies. Most of those updates are free, however what you are paying for is the convience of One-Stop shopping per se. You can pretty much build everything Astaro offers for free (minus the nice web UI). However what ASL offers is a tested, very easy to implement, secure, system. You can achieve this on your own, however it does require ALOT of work to do well.
Well in fairness to ASL, I do not think they are charging specifically for the snort updates, but instead charging for the update service. RedHat does this, so do many other business companies. Most of those updates are free, however what you are paying for is the convience of One-Stop shopping per se. You can pretty much build everything Astaro offers for free (minus the nice web UI). However what ASL offers is a tested, very easy to implement, secure, system. You can achieve this on your own, however it does require ALOT of work to do well.
[/ QUOTE ] as per their press release: Intrusion Protection, Virus Protection for Email, Virus Protection for the Web, and Surf Protection are optional subscription services.
Pretty cut and dry..they are going to charge for updating SNORT (via a service or whatever the result is stil the same)...which i have a problem with..but as i said before the rest of the product seems fine. Charging for a/v i can understand as it is another company's licensed work..but SNORT is a free IDS/IPS with free udpates.
[ QUOTE ] Pretty cut and dry..they are going to charge for updating SNORT (via a service or whatever the result is stil the same)...which i have a problem with..but as i said before the rest of the product seems fine. Charging for a/v i can understand as it is another company's licensed work..but SNORT is a free IDS/IPS with free udpates.
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So don't buy it then. Why should they provide the bandwidth for you to leech snort up2dates from them directly free of charge? If it's that much easier to compile and install the snort updates yourself on another box, then feel free. I'll stick with one touch updates myself.
rofl rofl rofl....nice response.....i am questioning hte legality of charging at all....and btw i never said i would buy the updates..i intend to "roll my own"..
Has anyone heard what the pricing is going to be for the Snort updates? If it's too expensive (I'm a Power Home User not corporate), I'd have to look into "Rolling my own" as well. I don't have a problem updating the *.rules files themselves but the ASL GUI doesn't create the standard *.rules files though. (Does it?). If in fact they are only charging for the up2date service bandwidth, the rules up2date files (like the ASL up2date files *.gz) could be mirrored somewhere for download to offload bandwidth requirements from the ASL servers. However, if ASL is, in fact, charging for the service of creating the up2date.gz file itself, then mirroring the file would be a breach of the EULA.
I know people have allready questioned the lack of IPS in the home version, but I just thought I'd chip in my 2 cents in the vain hope that it will sway the astaro admins into allowing it in the home licence, or at least the power users licence.
I agree, let the beta-testers/reporters use IPD/IDS !!! Also I don't understand why IPS/IDS is disabled even if there isn't a pricelist !?! How do you activate it? or better how do you test it ??? [:S]
