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ssh/scp from firewall to other machine

I want to ssh/scp from my astaro system to another machine in the internal network but the connection always times out. I have the proper packet filters set but the kernel log shows dropped packages for that connection anyway. 

I had this running with 3.2. after upgrading to 4.008 things have changed as it seems.

can anyone help me here? what do I have to do in order to get a ssh/scp connect to another server ?
  


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