[5.800] Slow Boot

ok im getting a few things. It takes 20 minutes to boot. the remounting drives readwrite is where it slows down. after its booted its fast again. Ill look into that.

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0 William Warren over 20 years ago

what hardware is this running on?

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0 Xeno over 20 years ago in reply to William Warren

Is that during file system check? Do you use SATA in legacy mode? Do you use Raid? Which hardware?

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0 Dave Packham over 20 years ago in reply to William Warren

its a Shuttle XPS SS51G with a 1.7 ghz P4 512 ram 80 gig ATA 100 Drive. I have disabled the Serial/USB/Printer/Sound to open up IRQ's is there a way to print out a debug config right from the firewall?

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0 William Warren over 20 years ago in reply to Dave Packham

Sounds like the sis 651 chipset may not be properly suported for DMA and that could be killing your disk performace. Is the SIS651 on the HCL?

Also after it starts its i'm done beeping...go into ssh and run top and see what the load averages are.

You could try hdparm(if it is included in ASL^) to see if you are getting proper disk performance.

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0 Dave Packham over 20 years ago in reply to William Warren

OK will do. the funny thing that I notice is that after the beeps its fast again. ill look into the chipset. and the hdparms and top reports

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0 Xeno over 20 years ago in reply to Dave Packham

If slow harddisk is the problem you can check the harddisk by simply write onto it. The following command writes data to a file as fast as possible:
cat /dev/zero > testfile
Let it run for 2 or 3 seconds then kill it with Control+C. Look at the size of the file. It should be at least 50 MB in size. Then your harddisk should be fast enough. Also you can try to disable DMA by executing 'hdparm -d 0 /dev/'

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0 William Warren over 20 years ago in reply to Xeno

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If slow harddisk is the problem you can check the harddisk by simply write onto it. The following command writes data to a file as fast as possible:
cat /dev/zero > testfile
Let it run for 2 or 3 seconds then kill it with Control+C. Look at the size of the file. It should be at least 50 MB in size. Then your harddisk should be fast enough. Also you can try to disable DMA by executing 'hdparm -d 0 /dev/'

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heck no..i would advise against disabling dma.

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0 Dave Packham over 20 years ago in reply to William Warren

remember that its only during boot that its slow. after i can login it zippy again like 5.202 used to be. its something during boot that gets undone near the end of the boot process

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0 BarryG over 20 years ago in reply to Dave Packham

I'd guess it's FSCK

ASL usually has it set to run FSCK on every reboot during the beta period.

You might be able to change it with tune2fs or look at the init scripts.

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0 Dave Packham over 20 years ago in reply to BarryG

does it take everyone the same time to boot? the disk light is not on during this time and with a fsck i would expect to see that flicker.... I can hook this box up to my web KVM and let someone watch it if they would like to try to see whats up here

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0 Dave Packham over 20 years ago in reply to Dave Packham

remember that with 5.202 it was booted in a about 2-3 minutes not the 20-30 its taking now... same box exactly
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0 BarryG over 20 years ago in reply to Dave Packham

Are you using static addressing or DHCP or PPPoE?

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0 BarryG over 20 years ago in reply to Dave Packham

Are you using static addressing or DHCP or PPPoE?

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0 Dave Packham over 20 years ago in reply to BarryG

Static. the same exact setup as in the 5.202 days nothing changed at all
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0 Markus Hennig over 20 years ago in reply to Dave Packham

Hi Dave,

thx so far for the report and details!
Can you please post the output of "hdparm /dev/hda" and "hwinfo --disk --bridge"?
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0 Dave Packham over 20 years ago in reply to Markus Hennig

host:/root # hwinfo --disk --bridge
09: PCI(AGP) 00.0: 0600 Host bridge
  [Created at pci.274]
  Unique ID: qLht.BSw6U4IXQI6
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:00.0
  SysFS BusID: 0000:00:00.0
  Hardware Class: bridge
  Model: "Silicon Integrated 651 Host"
  Vendor: pci 0x1039 "Silicon Integrated Systems Corp."
  Device: pci 0x0651 "651 Host"
  SubVendor: pci 0x1039 "Silicon Integrated Systems Corp."
  SubDevice: pci 0x0651
  Revision: 0x01
  Memory Range: 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff (rw,non-prefetchable)
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

10: PCI 01.0: 0604 PCI bridge (Normal decode)
  [Created at pci.274]
  Unique ID: vSkL.s4zPh4a_106
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0
  SysFS BusID: 0000:00:01.0
  Hardware Class: bridge
  Model: "Silicon Integrated Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)"
  Vendor: pci 0x1039 "Silicon Integrated Systems Corp."
  Device: pci 0x0001 "Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)"
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

11: PCI 02.0: 0601 ISA bridge
  [Created at pci.274]
  Unique ID: _Znp.9OXccJdUjUC
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0
  SysFS BusID: 0000:00:02.0
  Hardware Class: bridge
  Model: "Silicon Integrated SiS962 [MuTIOL Media IO]"
  Vendor: pci 0x1039 "Silicon Integrated Systems Corp."
  Device: pci 0x0962 "SiS962 [MuTIOL Media IO]"
  Revision: 0x04
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

24: IDE 00.0: 10600 Disk
  [Created at block.190]
  Unique ID: Fffu.hhQV7yBf5P0
  Parent ID: JCE+.YcrdtZYUzlA
  SysFS ID: /block/hda
  SysFS BusID: 0.0
  SysFS Device Link: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.5/ide0/0.0
  Hardware Class: disk
  Model: "WDC WD200BB-75DEA0"
  Vendor: "WDC"
  Device: "WD200BB-75DEA0"
  Revision: "05.03E05"
  Serial ID: "WD-WMAD21858809"
  Driver: "SIS IDE", "ide-disk"
  Device File: /dev/hda
  Device Number: block 3:0-3:63
  BIOS id: 0x80
  Geometry (Physical): CHS 16383/16/63
  Geometry (Logical): CHS 38792/16/63
  Size: 39102336 sectors a 512 bytes
  Cache: 2048 kb
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
  Attached to: #13 (IDE interface)
host:/root # clear
host:/root # hwinfo --disk --bridge
09: PCI(AGP) 00.0: 0600 Host bridge
  [Created at pci.274]
  Unique ID: qLht.BSw6U4IXQI6
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:00.0
  SysFS BusID: 0000:00:00.0
  Hardware Class: bridge
  Model: "Silicon Integrated 651 Host"
  Vendor: pci 0x1039 "Silicon Integrated Systems Corp."
  Device: pci 0x0651 "651 Host"
  SubVendor: pci 0x1039 "Silicon Integrated Systems Corp."
  SubDevice: pci 0x0651
  Revision: 0x01
  Memory Range: 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff (rw,non-prefetchable)
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

10: PCI 01.0: 0604 PCI bridge (Normal decode)
  [Created at pci.274]
  Unique ID: vSkL.s4zPh4a_106
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0
  SysFS BusID: 0000:00:01.0
  Hardware Class: bridge
  Model: "Silicon Integrated Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)"
  Vendor: pci 0x1039 "Silicon Integrated Systems Corp."
  Device: pci 0x0001 "Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)"
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

11: PCI 02.0: 0601 ISA bridge
  [Created at pci.274]
  Unique ID: _Znp.9OXccJdUjUC
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0
  SysFS BusID: 0000:00:02.0
  Hardware Class: bridge
  Model: "Silicon Integrated SiS962 [MuTIOL Media IO]"
  Vendor: pci 0x1039 "Silicon Integrated Systems Corp."
  Device: pci 0x0962 "SiS962 [MuTIOL Media IO]"
  Revision: 0x04
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

24: IDE 00.0: 10600 Disk
  [Created at block.190]
  Unique ID: Fffu.hhQV7yBf5P0
  Parent ID: JCE+.YcrdtZYUzlA
  SysFS ID: /block/hda
  SysFS BusID: 0.0
  SysFS Device Link: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.5/ide0/0.0
  Hardware Class: disk
  Model: "WDC WD200BB-75DEA0"
  Vendor: "WDC"
  Device: "WD200BB-75DEA0"
  Revision: "05.03E05"
  Serial ID: "WD-WMAD21858809"
  Driver: "SIS IDE", "ide-disk"
  Device File: /dev/hda
  Device Number: block 3:0-3:63
  BIOS id: 0x80
  Geometry (Physical): CHS 16383/16/63
  Geometry (Logical): CHS 38792/16/63
  Size: 39102336 sectors a 512 bytes
  Cache: 2048 kb
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
  Attached to: #13 (IDE interface)
host:/root #

host:/root # hdparm /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
multcount    = 16 (on)
IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
using_dma    =  1 (on)
keepsettings =  0 (off)
readonly     =  0 (off)
readahead    = 1024 (on)
geometry     = 38792/16/63, sectors = 39102336, start = 0
host:/root #
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0 Dave Packham over 20 years ago in reply to Dave Packham

Any Ideas?
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