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XG v17: what's coming next

Hi Everyone, 

You're all overdue for an update on current and next steps, so I wanted to take some time to share a brief update. Since v16 launched last year, we've seen a huge increase in deployments worldwide! It's great to see that the feedback and effort you've provided has really been helpful to shape a successful v16 launch! Thank you to everyone who has used XG, and shared your feedback. It's been immensely valuable, and a big factor in the success thus far.

We've also launched v16.05 (Also called 16.5 sometimes, by lazy people like me..) which closed off the last high-level feature gap between XG and UTM9. I've seen some questions on why this release didn't contain more, so I'll take a moment to go over why we released only what we did.

Earlier in 2016, we launched Sophos Sandstorm on both UTM9 and Sophos Web Appliance, to MUCH greater success than we had initially expected. This resulted in far greater demand to launch it on XG, and left us with a tough choice. We could delay v16 significantly, or leave Sandstorm until v17, as originally planned. We believed that delaying v16 by even a few more months, would have caused significant problems for our existing XG partners, and waiting until v17 to launch Sandstorm was just too far out. With that in mind, we looked at what it would cost to deliver Sandstorm sooner. Our web and email teams were already going to begin working on Sandstorm as soon as they finished with v16, so if we limited the features in a release to just Sandstorm, a 16.05 release was possible, without causing a meaningful delay to v17. If we included more features, quality testing would take too long. With this in mind, we decided to launch a highly focused 16.05 release, dedicated to delivering Sophos Sandstorm by end of December. This would get 16 out when it was needed, and also get Sandstorm out close enough to the 16 launch, that we could reduce the problems caused by 16 not having it. So far, the decision has proven to be justified, as the launch of 16.05 has significantly accelerated the already fast growing v16. This sort of smaller feature release, on a fast timetable, isn't something we normally want to do - but in this case, the circumstances called for it.  

While our web and email teams were working on v16.05, the rest of our teams began working on v17, and we're marching towards a beta start around April or May. I can't go into too much detail on all of it just yet, but here are some if the highlights of what you can expect:

  • Troubleshooting and Visibility
    • Improved log viewer v2 - Unified view of all log sources, better filtering and searching, improved readability and display of log contents, unified view of live and historical logs
    • Improved Log Retention - Persistent storage of logs, retained for 1-2 weeks, to improve troubleshooting issues that are days old
    • More insightful log contents - firewall logs will now log meaningful reasons for "invalid" packet drops, web logs will include more details for troubleshooting
    • Rich Policy Test - Enter criteria to check,such as source, destination, user, etc.. and find out what firewall rule will allow or block it, what policies will be applied, and for web traffic, a full analysis of what rule within the web policy will be matched, and what action will be shown to the user
  • Firewall Rule Management - sliimer layout, custom grouping, cool design
  • IPsec VPN engine Improvements - IKEv2, Suite-B protocols, Reliability Upgrades
  • NAT Business rule improvements - Object based, more familiar to UTM9 users, more powerful
  • Synchronized Security - changing game for application control
  • Email - UX Improvements, Spam improvements, Outbound relay
  • Web - streaming improvements, faster content filtering
  • Zero-touch firewall deployments (not strictly part of v17, but part of a parallel project)
  • Licensing and Registration- more usable, less mandatory

This forum has a heavy hand in what shapes our roadmap, but it isn't the only source. For example I and other PMs have frequent calls with customers and partners, and even competitor's customers and partners. Usability study participants, Sophos support, and ideas.sophos.com, also contribute valuable feedback. Quite often these sources are at odds with the community feedback. It rarely differs in whether a feature is desirable or not, but it often differs in importance, and we have to factor all of it into our planning. 

I mention this, because I know that after reading the above list, there will be immediate questions about "what about feature X?", or "Why not feature Y?". To that, I say:

  • If we're not doing it in v17, we're more than likely still planning it, but the order of priority might might be different than you prefer
  • Some of you will disagree with one feature being chosen over another, and perhaps even disagree very strongly. Just know that this doesn't mean we're ignoring your feedback. The majority of the features and focus of v17 are driven by requests coming from these forums. We're listening!
  • The above list isn't exhaustive, or detailed. What you're looking for might still be planned for v17, but I can't outline all the details just yet. Stay tuned for the start of beta.

Finally, I want to call out a group of features I know you're going to ask about. Renaming/disabling interfaces, and other objects. It's obviously important, and highly desired in the community. Some more enabling/disabling options may be added in v17, but not interfaces, and there won't be improvements in what you can rename just yet, either. I know it's a big annoyance for some of you not have those features, but we need to do it right. (Bring on your apple, copy/paste analogies.. :) ) I worked with the teams to see if we could come up with a plan that included at least interface enabling/disabling in v17, but it wasn't practical. There are hidden costs, that aren't obvious, and there are also other projects in the works, that will significantly reduce those costs. At the risk of being too much of a tease in this post, we have a plan to implements enable/disable, renaming, and many other ui usability niceties everywhere. It depends on completing a project that's been in the works for a while, that I can't discuss just yet. Rest assured, it's all coming, and you're going to like the results! Be patient, and stay tuned!

Best Regards,

Alan Toews

Sr. Product Manager, XG Firewall

 

 

 

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  • At the risk of getting flamed off this board, I think one's perspective on XG depends very much on where one comes from.  I arrived to the Sophos world back in March from Meraki MX firewalls, after we got an XG210.  Personally I think XG is a very good product, it has a huge number of features and capabilities over the Meraki firewalls we just came from for a cheaper price.  In fact, XG functions very closely (and will get even closer in v17 based on what I see and read here) to the way Microsoft's ISA/TMG product worked, so for me, having come from ISA/TMG, I feel XG to be very familiar and natural and love what Sophos is doing vs. the UTM product.  I freely admit that it has some rough edges, it has some inexplicably missing features (no VLAN tagging, and no DHCPv6 PD in 2017 are you kidding me?), and logging is poor.  But then again, everything has flaws.  I get that when XG was released with version 15 it was probably better described as a 1.0 product and maybe the messaging was unclear and so some UTM people dove in thinking it was an "upgrade" and then were sorely disappointed, and even into v16 the perception is that it still isn't "complete" but overall I'm happy with it and believe in Alan and the team that they are going to deliver a homerun with v17.  The nearly monthly maintenance releases, IMO, demonstrate a commitment to quality and progress.

    I have observed that people who come from the Astaro/UTM product tend to be highly critical of the XG in general and believe the UTM is superior in all ways and the XG is just a waste of resources and a folly by Sophos.  I am not qualified to know if the UTM is truly vastly superior in every way, as many claim, since I have never used it, but browsing the UTM forum seems to reveal it also deals with its own problems (the recent UTM Active Directory SSO bug comes to mind), and even those are blamed on XG (Sophos is "diverting resources" away from UTM to XG). 

    I don't know, to be sure there are fair criticisms of XG to be had, but it just feels like it takes an unfair amount of beating at times because its not something that it was never intended to be. 

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  • At the risk of getting flamed off this board, I think one's perspective on XG depends very much on where one comes from.  I arrived to the Sophos world back in March from Meraki MX firewalls, after we got an XG210.  Personally I think XG is a very good product, it has a huge number of features and capabilities over the Meraki firewalls we just came from for a cheaper price.  In fact, XG functions very closely (and will get even closer in v17 based on what I see and read here) to the way Microsoft's ISA/TMG product worked, so for me, having come from ISA/TMG, I feel XG to be very familiar and natural and love what Sophos is doing vs. the UTM product.  I freely admit that it has some rough edges, it has some inexplicably missing features (no VLAN tagging, and no DHCPv6 PD in 2017 are you kidding me?), and logging is poor.  But then again, everything has flaws.  I get that when XG was released with version 15 it was probably better described as a 1.0 product and maybe the messaging was unclear and so some UTM people dove in thinking it was an "upgrade" and then were sorely disappointed, and even into v16 the perception is that it still isn't "complete" but overall I'm happy with it and believe in Alan and the team that they are going to deliver a homerun with v17.  The nearly monthly maintenance releases, IMO, demonstrate a commitment to quality and progress.

    I have observed that people who come from the Astaro/UTM product tend to be highly critical of the XG in general and believe the UTM is superior in all ways and the XG is just a waste of resources and a folly by Sophos.  I am not qualified to know if the UTM is truly vastly superior in every way, as many claim, since I have never used it, but browsing the UTM forum seems to reveal it also deals with its own problems (the recent UTM Active Directory SSO bug comes to mind), and even those are blamed on XG (Sophos is "diverting resources" away from UTM to XG). 

    I don't know, to be sure there are fair criticisms of XG to be had, but it just feels like it takes an unfair amount of beating at times because its not something that it was never intended to be. 

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  • Hi Bill,

    a number of us UTM fans have joined and used the XG to learn what the new way of thinking is for firewalls and add our experience to the testing.

    As you said the XG does have some features that the UTM does not have and one is the ability to scan imap mail messages.

    Some of the functions are much easier to configure than on the UTM. Further to what you said it depends on where you come from as to whether you think the XG is a good well featured product.

    I am currently using the XG latest release as my main firewall, I have UTM as a backup about to be rebuilt due to hardware issues

    I look forward to the v17 release and wish it would happen soon to stop the continued speculation.

    Ian

  • All things considered I prefer working with XG than with SG. Everything just seems to make that much more sense (although it didn't initially). QoS is broken, but not really any more than SG. I would like to see nmap, iftop, and all the other commandline tools (busybox is a poor substitute), but I guess they have to make it fit into the XG75 footprint.

  • Hi,

    QOS on the UTM used to work, I had it working for VoIP and outgoing email limiting. I can't test either XG or UTM my internet connection is so poor, there isn't any room bandwidth wish to try anything.

    Ian