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Why this user or computer can access to internet ?!

Hello All,

With sophos xg in the company

AD authentication (stas and CAA)

I have may be 40 rules FW LAN > WAN, but all these rules are with "match known users", so  users or groups are presents

there is no rule witch allow mac@ pc or ip address pc or no authentication

So by chance i had computer joind to domain, but i open local session ,not domain session, with local administrator account

then i try google web browser and it access directly !! to internet

there is no rule witch matching user administrator account, and i opened local session on the computer!

 normally i will have two options:

1- no internet access or

2- redirecting to web portal ( for authentication)

but none of these two options

In this case , all who have computer and connect it to the network can access internet !!?

what happened?

Thank you for your feedback



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  • Hello there,

    Adding to what Erick mentioned, do a GUI Packet Capture using the IP of the computer in question, and confirm which Firewall Rule is being used.

    Regards, 


     
    Emmanuel (EmmoSophos)
    Technical Team Lead, Global Community Support
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  • Hello Erick Jan & Emmanuel

    yes the main authentication is on AD

    so, i will doing Packet capture to confirme witch FW rule is being used

    i will be back !

  • okay

    when i check logviewer and filter by src ip, 

    I found that this ip is related to a domain user (x)!
    normally no, there should be a conflict
    and this PC that I am testing on it, I use user01 and it is a local windows account which opens a local session on the PC
    the PC took an ip address, but my problem is that in logviewer, I found a domain user (x) with this ip address logged in !!?
    what happens?

  • Hello Fotit,

    This is because the XG/STAS associates an IP with a User when the user first logs in.

    This should be able to be avoided by using STAC, or by accessing first to the computer, with the local user.

    Regards,


     
    Emmanuel (EmmoSophos)
    Technical Team Lead, Global Community Support
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  • Hello,

    but that doesn't solve my original problem

    it is abnormal that you take any pc joined or not to the domain and when you create a local user (lambda) on this PC and you connect it to the network, the user is authorized to go on the internet !!.
    ok i know that a domain user when he connects, stas associates an ip to this user, but it is not an association until the end of life..
    so this pc that took an ip by dhcp, and that the user that opened a session does not exist on the domain, it is connected to the internet through an existing association, there is a lack of reliability heaps
    And I don't know how to approach this problem

    did you manage to understand my context

    Thank you

  • Hello,

    it is very unusual in a corporate network context that you use a local user account when your pc is joined to a domain.

    Why do you work like this? Is there a reason?

    Mit freundlichem Gruß, best regards from Germany,

    Philipp Rusch

    New Vision GmbH, Germany
    Sophos Silver-Partner

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  • Hello,

    it's simple,

    sometimes you want to test the security and configuration of your network and see if the security configurations put in place are functional
    in my case I tested this, and I found that a pc can go to the internet with a user who is not authenticated by the authentication mechanism in place
    so it's to be seen again.

  • How does STAS pickup this user? Because STAS monitors the AD. So somehow the STAS picked up the Login Event of this particular machine. You could check the STAS log on the server, if you see the login event. 

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  • How does STAS pickup this user? Because STAS monitors the AD. So somehow the STAS picked up the Login Event of this particular machine. You could check the STAS log on the server, if you see the login event. 

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