This discussion has been locked.
You can no longer post new replies to this discussion. If you have a question you can start a new discussion

Sophos Firewall: v19.5 GA: Feedback and experiences

Release Post:  Sophos Firewall v19.5 is Now Available 

Old v19.0 MR1 thread:  Sophos Firewall: v19.0 MR1: Feedback and experiences 

EAP Sub thread:  SFOS v19.5 Early Access Program 

EAP 19.5 Thread:  Sophos Firewall: v19.5 EAP1: Feedback and experiences 



This thread was automatically locked due to age.

Top Replies

  • This is indeed expected behavior of the FCI feature.  What follows is a Draft of a KB Article I'm writing (feedback welcome).



    In XG 18.0 the DPI proxy was introduced, with many more SSL/TLS scanning options and certificate protection. There are some certificate security concerns with that are blocked in most configurations, however they are allowed without any warning when using DPI mode with the decryption profile "Maximum compatibility". In these cases the XG decrypts and re-signs, creating a new certificate with its own Certificate Authority that hides potential problems that the end user should know about which that would be blocked in other configurations.

    In 19.0 a new feature was added called Forward Certificate Invalidity (FCI). This feature detects certain types of certificate invalidity and "forwards" (tells the user) about them. Because we cannot create a certificate with the same error, so we create one in a special way that we know will cause browsers to warn users. A CA is used that us unique and untrusted, and the certificate Common Name is used as the error message to tell the end user what the problem is. This changes the behavior of DPI mode with Maximum Compatibility. By signing it in the way, browsers will warn users that there is a certificate problem but will allow users to proceed and load the pages as they did in 18.0/18.5.

    The most common issue that FCI catches on the public internet is websites that do not send their entire certificate chain. When a website provides their certificate, they usually provide the certificate, the CA that signed it (usually an intermediate CA), the CA that signed that one, up to the root CA. The root CA is trusted by the browser, and the browser can verify the entire chain.

    However some websites do not provide the chain. They may provide only the certificate, or they provide the certificate and the root CA, but they do not provide the intermediate CA. While this is valid, it is not best practice and sites like ssllabs.com which rate sites will cap their score.

    If a website does not provide the chain they usually implement AIA (Authority Information Access). This is a link within the certificate that says where to download the CA that signed it.

    Some browsers (Chrome 58+, Edge, Safari) will automatically use the AIA to download the intermediate and store it for future use. Firefox 75+ uses a different mechanism called intermediate CA preloading (wiki.mozilla.org/.../Intermediate_Preloading). Older Android (pre Oreo) devices do not support any mechanism. The XG does not currently support AIA.

    If the website does not provide the full chain, the XG behavior depends on the configuration. It is important to note that v19 did not introduce blocking of sites that do not provide the full chain. The XG has always blocked these sites when using normal security, and the resolution below has always worked. The difference is that when using a decryption profile that does not block self signed certificate, invalid issuers, or many other security concerns (such as "Maximum compatibility") we used to allow the connection and sign it in a way that made it appear more secure. Now we allow but sign it in a way that appears insecure.

    How to configure the system to allow access to sites that do not provide a complete certificate chain.

    Method 1 - Do not decrypt
    Configure the domain to not be decrypted. Adding the domain to the Local TLS Exclusion List is the best option for DPI mode. Adding it to a Web Exception will exclude it for both DPI and Proxy mode.

    Method 2 - Add the Intermediate certificate to the XG CA store

    Option 1:
    Test the site in www.ssllabs.com/.../
    You should see that the grade is capped to B and the Certification Path includes an "Extra Download". In the section under Issuer there should be an AIA link.

    Option 2:
    Use a browser that is not going through the XG, or is going through the XG with HTTPS not decrypted so that you get the original certificates as presented by the site. Ask the browser to display the certificate information and the AIA link should be there. How this is displayed is browser specific.

    Once you have the AIA link, download the certificate to your computer. Then in WebAdmin go to Certificates > Certificate Authorities and Add. Choose the file.
    With the Intermediate in the CA store, the page will load in all configurations.

    Jump to answer
Parents
  • running XG home

    Ever since the Update to 19.5 I am having connection issues with the cable modem in bridge mode, Sophos does not get the MAC of the gateway, switching to DHCP fails as well. ARP PIng  on the interface did not help as well. Serveral reboots of the VM and modem wihtout any success. 

    Second gateway on another interface works fine, switching the interfaces does nothing except that the second also connects again immediately on the new interface.

    Computer directly connected to the modem connects instantly, both with static IPs as well as dynamic.

    Switched to 19.1 and everything was fine again, Update to 19.2 and also fine.

    Already redid the VM, allways the same issues with that one gateway when using anything above the 19.5.

    (any suggestion how I could troubleshoot the issue would be welcome, arp ping on the console does not seem to help)

Reply
  • running XG home

    Ever since the Update to 19.5 I am having connection issues with the cable modem in bridge mode, Sophos does not get the MAC of the gateway, switching to DHCP fails as well. ARP PIng  on the interface did not help as well. Serveral reboots of the VM and modem wihtout any success. 

    Second gateway on another interface works fine, switching the interfaces does nothing except that the second also connects again immediately on the new interface.

    Computer directly connected to the modem connects instantly, both with static IPs as well as dynamic.

    Switched to 19.1 and everything was fine again, Update to 19.2 and also fine.

    Already redid the VM, allways the same issues with that one gateway when using anything above the 19.5.

    (any suggestion how I could troubleshoot the issue would be welcome, arp ping on the console does not seem to help)

Children
No Data