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sophostest.com - unable to test due to Sophos Scan exclusion recommendations

Hey, I cannot test our XG with the test site, you are providing: https://sophostest.com/

I've asked this once but forgot. Today I wanted to verify something but could'nt even find the request in the web filter log.

Of course, I could browse all the bad test sites.

This is because your test site is running on the same could servers, probably cloudfront.net, as you use for Sophos / Central services. And for those cloud servers (FQDN) there are http/https exceptions and the requests are not even scanned by webfilter.

Bad design for a (malware) test-site.

Can you please put the site on some stand-alone server so we can use it for testing the filters?

during my tests the site had the IP

13.225.87.17


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  • Why? there are http and https rules towards to the Sophos / Central servers.

    https://docs.sophos.com/central/Customer/help/en-us/central/Customer/concepts/DomainsPorts.html

    Ports

    You must add the following ports.

    • 80 (HTTP)
    • 443 (HTTPS)

    and really, this sucks: *.cloudfront.net, amazonaws.com

  • sophostest.com is not in the exclusion list.

    But in some FQDN of the recommended exclusion is also including the IPv4 of sophostest.com

  • Where do you use sophostest.com as a recommend exclusion?

    nowhere. Browsing to this side goes into the firewall rule belonging to the Sophos Central Exceptions.

    btw: seems to run on some AWS site:

  • sophostest.com is external hosted to do not have any relation to Sophos. If you know a recommended read or anything, which recommend to exlcude this, then feel free to report this to get this removed. 

    Then again: Why do you have a firewall rule including sophostest.com? 

  • I'm not including this site.  catched my point.

    This rule matches only because the same IPv4 is used by sophostest.com and some other sophos stuff.

    one example:

    "

    during my tests the site had the IP

    13.225.87.17"

  • Do you have a output of the logviewer using this 13. IP? Because sophostest.com should not use a sophos known address. 

  • Firewall
        
    2021-08-06 14:33:50
        
    messageid="00001" log_type="Firewall" log_component="Firewall Rule" log_subtype="Allowed" status="Allow" con_duration="181" fw_rule_id="98" nat_rule_id="6" policy_type="1" user="myname@ourdomain.name" user_group="ccc.ccc" web_policy_id="0" ips_policy_id="0" appfilter_policy_id="0" app_name="Secure Socket Layer Protocol" app_risk="1" app_technology="Network Protocol" app_category="Infrastructure" vlan_id="" ether_type="Unknown (0x0000)" bridge_name="" bridge_display_name="" in_interface="lag0.222" in_display_interface="lag0.222" out_interface="lag0.2524" out_display_interface="lag0.2524" src_mac="00:50:56:85:00:2E" dst_mac="C8:4F:86:FC:00:0D" src_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" src_country="R1" dst_ip="13.225.87.17" dst_country="USA" protocol="TCP" src_port="50446" dst_port="443" packets_sent="75" packets_received="192" bytes_sent="5013" bytes_received="247475" src_trans_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.ddd" src_trans_port="0" dst_trans_ip="" dst_trans_port="0" src_zone_type="LAN" src_zone="LAN" dst_zone_type="WAN" dst_zone="WAN" con_direction="" con_event="Stop" con_id="782242816" virt_con_id="" hb_status="No Heartbeat" message="" appresolvedby="Signature" app_is_cloud="0"
    Firewall
        
    2021-08-06 14:30:59
        
    messageid="00001" log_type="Firewall" log_component="Firewall Rule" log_subtype="Allowed" status="Allow" con_duration="11" fw_rule_id="98" nat_rule_id="6" policy_type="1" user="myname@ourdomain.name" user_group="ccc.ccc" web_policy_id="0" ips_policy_id="0" appfilter_policy_id="0" app_name="Secure Socket Layer Protocol" app_risk="1" app_technology="Network Protocol" app_category="Infrastructure" vlan_id="" ether_type="Unknown (0x0000)" bridge_name="" bridge_display_name="" in_interface="lag0.222" in_display_interface="lag0.222" out_interface="lag0.2524" out_display_interface="lag0.2524" src_mac="00:50:56:85:00:2E" dst_mac="C8:4F:86:FC:00:0D" src_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" src_country="R1" dst_ip="13.225.87.17" dst_country="USA" protocol="TCP" src_port="50443" dst_port="443" packets_sent="64" packets_received="184" bytes_sent="4247" bytes_received="246441" src_trans_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.ddd" src_trans_port="0" dst_trans_ip="" dst_trans_port="0" src_zone_type="LAN" src_zone="LAN" dst_zone_type="WAN" dst_zone="WAN" con_direction="" con_event="Stop" con_id="1143560768" virt_con_id="" hb_status="No Heartbeat" message="" appresolvedby="Signature" app_is_cloud="0"
    Firewall
        
    2021-08-06 14:30:58
        
    messageid="00001" log_type="Firewall" log_component="Firewall Rule" log_subtype="Allowed" status="Allow" con_duration="11" fw_rule_id="98" nat_rule_id="6" policy_type="1" user="myname@ourdomain.name" user_group="ccc.ccc" web_policy_id="0" ips_policy_id="0" appfilter_policy_id="0" app_name="Secure Socket Layer Protocol" app_risk="1" app_technology="Network Protocol" app_category="Infrastructure" vlan_id="" ether_type="Unknown (0x0000)" bridge_name="" bridge_display_name="" in_interface="lag0.222" in_display_interface="lag0.222" out_interface="lag0.2524" out_display_interface="lag0.2524" src_mac="00:50:56:85:00:2E" dst_mac="C8:4F:86:FC:00:0D" src_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" src_country="R1" dst_ip="13.225.87.17" dst_country="USA" protocol="TCP" src_port="50440" dst_port="443" packets_sent="18" packets_received="18" bytes_sent="2283" bytes_received="7763" src_trans_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.ddd" src_trans_port="0" dst_trans_ip="" dst_trans_port="0" src_zone_type="LAN" src_zone="LAN" dst_zone_type="WAN" dst_zone="WAN" con_direction="" con_event="Stop" con_id="1165648512" virt_con_id="" hb_status="No Heartbeat" message="" appresolvedby="Signature" app_is_cloud="0"
    Firewall
        
    2021-08-06 14:30:58
        
    messageid="00001" log_type="Firewall" log_component="Firewall Rule" log_subtype="Allowed" status="Allow" con_duration="11" fw_rule_id="98" nat_rule_id="6" policy_type="1" user="myname@ourdomain.name" user_group="ccc.ccc" web_policy_id="0" ips_policy_id="0" appfilter_policy_id="0" app_name="Secure Socket Layer Protocol" app_risk="1" app_technology="Network Protocol" app_category="Infrastructure" vlan_id="" ether_type="Unknown (0x0000)" bridge_name="" bridge_display_name="" in_interface="lag0.222" in_display_interface="lag0.222" out_interface="lag0.2524" out_display_interface="lag0.2524" src_mac="00:50:56:85:00:2E" dst_mac="C8:4F:86:FC:00:0D" src_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" src_country="R1" dst_ip="13.225.87.17" dst_country="USA" protocol="TCP" src_port="50437" dst_port="443" packets_sent="7" packets_received="7" bytes_sent="809" bytes_received="5819" src_trans_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.ddd" src_trans_port="0" dst_trans_ip="" dst_trans_port="0" src_zone_type="LAN" src_zone="LAN" dst_zone_type="WAN" dst_zone="WAN" con_direction="" con_event="Stop" con_id="3963242688" virt_con_id="" hb_status="No Heartbeat" message="" appresolvedby="Signature" app_is_cloud="0"
    Firewall
        
    2021-08-06 14:30:53
        
    messageid="00001" log_type="Firewall" log_component="Firewall Rule" log_subtype="Allowed" status="Allow" con_duration="10" fw_rule_id="98" nat_rule_id="6" policy_type="1" user="myname@ourdomain.name" user_group="ccc.ccc" web_policy_id="0" ips_policy_id="0" appfilter_policy_id="0" app_name="" app_risk="0" app_technology="" app_category="" vlan_id="" ether_type="Unknown (0x0000)" bridge_name="" bridge_display_name="" in_interface="lag0.222" in_display_interface="lag0.222" out_interface="lag0.2524" out_display_interface="lag0.2524" src_mac="00:50:56:85:00:2E" dst_mac="C8:4F:86:FC:00:0D" src_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" src_country="R1" dst_ip="13.225.87.17" dst_country="USA" protocol="TCP" src_port="50432" dst_port="443" packets_sent="4" packets_received="2" bytes_sent="172" bytes_received="92" src_trans_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.ddd" src_trans_port="0" dst_trans_ip="" dst_trans_port="0" src_zone_type="LAN" src_zone="LAN" dst_zone_type="WAN" dst_zone="WAN" con_direction="" con_event="Stop" con_id="2024355136" virt_con_id="" hb_status="No Heartbeat" message="" appresolvedby="Signature" app_is_cloud="0"
    Firewall
        
    2021-08-06 14:10:42
        
    messageid="00001" log_type="Firewall" log_component="Firewall Rule" log_subtype="Allowed" status="Allow" con_duration="17" fw_rule_id="98" nat_rule_id="6" policy_type="1" user="othername@ourdomain.name" user_group="ccc.ccc" web_policy_id="0" ips_policy_id="0" appfilter_policy_id="0" app_name="Secure Socket Layer Protocol" app_risk="1" app_technology="Network Protocol" app_category="Infrastructure" vlan_id="" ether_type="Unknown (0x0000)" bridge_name="" bridge_display_name="" in_interface="ccc.ccccc" in_display_interface="yyy-yyy" out_interface="lag0.2524" out_display_interface="lag0.2524" src_mac="A0:66:10:09:A0:08" dst_mac="00:98:7A:5A:5D:86" src_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy" src_country="R1" dst_ip="13.225.87.17" dst_country="USA" protocol="TCP" src_port="51019" dst_port="443" packets_sent="20" packets_received="65" bytes_sent="3117" bytes_received="70470" src_trans_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.ddd" src_trans_port="0" dst_trans_ip="" dst_trans_port="0" src_zone_type="LAN" src_zone="LAN" dst_zone_type="WAN" dst_zone="WAN" con_direction="" con_event="Stop" con_id="1150146496" virt_con_id="" hb_status="No Heartbeat" message="" appresolvedby="Signature" app_is_cloud="0"
    Firewall
        
    2021-08-06 13:48:43
        
    messageid="00001" log_type="Firewall" log_component="Firewall Rule" log_subtype="Allowed" status="Allow" con_duration="252" fw_rule_id="98" nat_rule_id="6" policy_type="1" user="othername@ourdomain.name" user_group="ccc-ccc-cccc" web_policy_id="0" ips_policy_id="0" appfilter_policy_id="0" app_name="Secure Socket Layer Protocol" app_risk="1" app_technology="Network Protocol" app_category="Infrastructure" vlan_id="" ether_type="Unknown (0x0000)" bridge_name="" bridge_display_name="" in_interface="lag0.7" in_display_interface="lag0.7" out_interface="lag0.2524" out_display_interface="lag0.2524" src_mac="A0:66:10:05:D0:FB" dst_mac="C8:4F:86:FC:00:0D" src_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy" src_country="R1" dst_ip="13.225.87.17" dst_country="USA" protocol="TCP" src_port="64306" dst_port="443" packets_sent="40" packets_received="230" bytes_sent="3034" bytes_received="309336" src_trans_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.ddd" src_trans_port="0" dst_trans_ip="" dst_trans_port="0" src_zone_type="LAN" src_zone="LAN" dst_zone_type="WAN" dst_zone="WAN" con_direction="" con_event="Stop" con_id="1167646720" virt_con_id="" hb_status="No Heartbeat" message="" appresolvedby="Signature" app_is_cloud="0"
    Firewall
        
    2021-08-06 13:21:15
        
    messageid="00001" log_type="Firewall" log_component="Firewall Rule" log_subtype="Allowed" status="Allow" con_duration="11" fw_rule_id="98" nat_rule_id="6" policy_type="1" user="" user_group="" web_policy_id="0" ips_policy_id="0" appfilter_policy_id="0" app_name="Secure Socket Layer Protocol" app_risk="1" app_technology="Network Protocol" app_category="Infrastructure" vlan_id="" ether_type="Unknown (0x0000)" bridge_name="" bridge_display_name="" in_interface="lag0.2" in_display_interface="ccc-ccc" out_interface="lag0.2524" out_display_interface="lag0.2524" src_mac="54:BF:64:35:9E:2C" dst_mac="C8:4F:86:FC:00:0D" src_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy" src_country="R1" dst_ip="13.225.87.17" dst_country="USA" protocol="TCP" src_port="49758" dst_port="443" packets_sent="23" packets_received="19" bytes_sent="10032" bytes_received="7287" src_trans_ip="xxx.xxx.xxx.ddd" src_trans_port="0" dst_trans_ip="" dst_trans_port="0" src_zone_type="LAN" src_zone="LAN" dst_zone_type="WAN" dst_zone="WAN" con_direction="" con_event="Stop"

    rule 98: Sophos Central

    *.cloudfront.net

    see below:*.sophos.com

    • *.sophosupd.com
    • *.sophosupd.net
    • *.sophosxl.net
    • ocsp.globalsign.com
    • ocsp2.globalsign.com
    • crl.globalsign.com
    • crl.globalsign.net
    • ocsp.digicert.com
    • crl3.digicert.com
    • crl4.digicert.com
    • tf-edr-message-upload-eu-central-1-prod-bucket.s3.amazonaws.
    • tf-edr-message-upload-eu-west-1-prod-bucket.s3.amazonaws.com
    • tf-edr-message-upload-us-east-2-prod-bucket.s3.amazonaws.com
    • tf-edr-message-upload-us-west-2-prod-bucket.s3.amazonaws.com
    • kinesis.us-west-2.amazonaws.com
    • prod.endpointintel.darkbytes.io
    • mcs2-cloudstation-eu-central-1.prod.hydra.sophos.com
    • mcs2-cloudstation-eu-west-1.prod.hydra.sophos.com
    • mcs2-cloudstation-us-east-2.prod.hydra.sophos.com
    • mcs2-cloudstation-us-west-2.prod
  • Still not clear to me. 

    We have four IPs behind sophostest.com.

    Domain Name # sophostest.com
    Resolved Address 1# 65.9.73.24
    Resolved Address 2# 65.9.73.79
    Resolved Address 3# 65.9.73.56
    Resolved Address 4# 65.9.73.114

    You think, this IP is behind one of those DNS Records? 

  • may I send you an XML of that rule and you test it again?

  • You can share it here. I am not seeing any relationship of the sophostest.com to those hosts, you mentioned here or are reflected in the KB. 

  • that's a lot of work to get the xml version I see now, need all Objects and also NAT rule. will not get it done today.

    But why don#t you see the relation?

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  • Yes. And what is the relationship to sophostest.com which is not related to *.sophos.com. There is a wildcard and a dot, separating everything infront of .sophos.com. sophostest.com is a own domain with other IP addresses. You showing a 13. IP, how does this IP correlate to those IPs related to sophostest.com?