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Where is V18 at?

rfcat_vk

Hi,

this request for an update on progress is for those of us that do not have access top partners/resllers.

Would some-one in the know who is allowed to provide progress on v18 please add to this thread.

I am not after guesses or conjecture, but real timelines (give or take a month).

Ian



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    The following post is personal opinion and not company position.

    Sophos is in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.
    If they announce an expected EAP date, and they miss that date, the community gets upset.
    If they don't announce an expected EAP date, the community gets upset.
    Therefore, in my opinion (not officially company position) Sophos tries not to announce a date unless it is firm.
     
    The community then looks at (deliberately) vague statements from months ago about possible dates and then gets upset they are not being met.  Which is a disincentive for Sophos to announce updated dates.
    I *know* people want information.  But pulling up slides and photos from the past and then saying that Sophos missed a date makes Sophos more secretive, rather than more open.  IMO.
     
    There is also a...  conflict inherent in any release by any company.  Any company doing a release wants to ship it as early as possible, right?  So they want to date to be really early.  But early dates leave no room for contingency and therefore are more likely to slip.  So you could announce a later date, which is less likely to slip. But now you might end up releasing later than you could.  This is a problem inherent in any estimation.  When the stakes are high, the impact of making the wrong estimate are higher.  So in this case, Sophos decides to not play the game and not announce an estimate.  Again this is only my opinion.
     
    The solution is that if the community really want to know dates then the community can never be upset if the dates change.  But that would require a culture change in both the community and within Sophos.
     
    Until then, for v18 EAP and any other Sophos release, you probably won't know the dates until it is just about to happen.
     
    Apple announces a new iPhone and its features the day before they start selling it in the store.
  • 0 in reply to Michael Dunn

    Michael, 

    I agree with most of what you said and agree that Sophos (or anybody) is often in the "damned if you do damned if you don't" situation.  Its also true though that just about everybody is on some sort of timeline or deadline to get things done (construction, software development, internal business projects, etc).  I think the missing piece of this is an atmosphere of anticipation that's created because, as long as I've been here (v16), it seems like "the next version of XG" is supposed to right a lot of supposed wrongs.  Now whether Sophos has created that idea, or whether our imaginations have run away with us on the forums, is another debate.  For instance, I hold out hope that DHCPv6-PD will finally make an appearance in v18.  It is baffling to me that such a basic feature is still AWOL, and nobody has told me that its coming in v18, but I sort of anticipate it.  Same could be said of Websocket support.  

    The bottom line is Sophos will release it when they deem it ready, and none of us know when that will be or what the criteria for that is.  Until then I eagerly await.

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    Michael, 

    I agree with most of what you said and agree that Sophos (or anybody) is often in the "damned if you do damned if you don't" situation.  Its also true though that just about everybody is on some sort of timeline or deadline to get things done (construction, software development, internal business projects, etc).  I think the missing piece of this is an atmosphere of anticipation that's created because, as long as I've been here (v16), it seems like "the next version of XG" is supposed to right a lot of supposed wrongs.  Now whether Sophos has created that idea, or whether our imaginations have run away with us on the forums, is another debate.  For instance, I hold out hope that DHCPv6-PD will finally make an appearance in v18.  It is baffling to me that such a basic feature is still AWOL, and nobody has told me that its coming in v18, but I sort of anticipate it.  Same could be said of Websocket support.  

    The bottom line is Sophos will release it when they deem it ready, and none of us know when that will be or what the criteria for that is.  Until then I eagerly await.

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