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Traffic Shaping; why is user policy forced?

I'm doing traffic shaping per device group and have removed the per user policy. But, in the firewall rules you are forcing me to the user policy just because I want users to login, having the option greyed out, but, selected.

How would I separate WAN transfers from VLAN transfer if the user policy is the same for both forms of rules?

 

Another question: When this user policy is applied and None is selected in all users and groups, is the default maximum still used?

I'm noticing VLAN transfers currently limited to what appears to be that number. Transferring between SSDs here...

(edit) This is not the case, after I tested some things I confirmed my VMs were the issue for this aspect. So, setting these to none in groups disables all of the traffic shaping.

 

All I wanted was to be able to require WAN on my one network to require a sign-in, with those devices have their own limitations in their WAN access rules. But, as long as I have those rules include user sign-in I cannot change the devices to a share bandwidth group. Seriously?

On top of this I wanted to have user level access to a server on another VLAN instead of device specific access. Now my VLAN connection is limited to whatever the connection would be for those user policies which would typically account for WAN bandwidth?

 

It almost seems as if I'd have to create a rule just for the VLAN network to require sign in for WAN access and then add the devices under that rule specifying their own bandwidth. All of this instead of keeping it clean and simple by allowing me to change one simple setting?

Which still doesn't solve any intervlan traffic that I want a user to sign-in to access. You've made your user traffic shaping worthless by forcing it on the rules.



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