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What are XG home license limits?

Slawski

Does someone know if there are any limitations to home license besides hardware cap and non-business usage ? For example if I can activate more than one devices with my Sophos ID ?


I'm asking because my devices is already "in production state" - I mean it serves as a home router and now I have limited possibility to test things out. It would be nice if I could use the license on a VM for testing.



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  • 0 in reply to Patryk Sidor

    While I like your workaround, the one thing that I will always applaud sophos for is their generous home license. Also, unlike UTM, they don't use any watermarks or limitations associated with home license in XG. On smaller appliances, the home license will run happily but at the end of the day, you are messing with their business model. If your appliance is out of warranty and you want to treat it as another hardware, sure go ahead and hack away but still keep in mind, once you go down this road, you are inviting big warning signs like in UTM that will start pointing out that this is for home use only etc. Plus how many people are going to run larger appliances at home?

    I have no problems with UTM style home use warnings but it was nice to run XG like a full licensed product without any watermarks on it. And this action more than likely will force them into doing the same for XG.

    I understand your desire to teach your students and I am not questioning your motives, but once you put this in the wild, its money that you are inadvertently taking from sophos where the chances for abuse are great. Something to think about. Also, home license in the lab to teach others is not the correct application of the license since technically its not home use.

    A 30 day trial license is what you should be using in the lab on your own hardware.

  • 0 in reply to Patryk Sidor

    Yes, Patryk, I did read your article. It was well written, and reasonably thorough, though it generated some questions, which were sent to me directly. I felt it would be useful to answer those questions once, publicly, rather than respond to privately. 

    To be clear, my intent was not to discourage people from following your article, but to make sure they are properly informed, before they do. 

  • 0 in reply to AlanT

    I see millions of websites with keygens and alike with a disclaimer that the software hack is for educational purposes only. The intent of the hacker is not a problem, its the end user that abuse the hack that ultimately costs the software writers and others is the problem.

  • 0 in reply to Billybob

    Hi,

    I really don’t want to start a war what’s wrong what’s good.

    I really love business model of Sophos and I think it’s great to learn how to use and deploy UTM before someone buy it for it’s own Company. After a year of testing in home I recommend of buying 4 UTM’s for Company that I worked for with Full license. So please don’t compare this tutorial and Me to cracks sites. If anybody thinks it’s morally wrong DON’T USE IT AND DON’T DO THIS !!! IF YOU WANT USE THIS TUTORIAL IN ANY ILLEGAL ACTIONS YOU SHOULD COUNT FOR LEGAL CONSEQUENCES.

    End of discussion.

    Patryk

  • 0 in reply to Patryk Sidor

    I am not starting a war and it is definitely not end of discussion. While I am personally not a reseller, a lot of people's businesses depend on selling hardware appliances. Your hack is not that difficult and I am sure circumventing bios has been done by chinese hackers long time ago. You just put it out in the open for everyone with step by step directions.

    All you have accomplished is to challenge sophos to develop watermarks for their software or use other methods to lock down the bios where the appliance won't boot or worse turn into a brick while attempting bios modifications.

    So yeah... its not End of discussion[:^)] 

  • 0 in reply to Billybob

    Yes I’ve done nothing special I’ve just done only what people on this forum trying to done since 2015 if I remember, and no one done it :) So I’ve done only that what everybody want to do it.

    Please don’t behave like a child. You are really so jealous that you have no skills to done this before me ?

    You are 15 years old and you go to mom :)

    It’s not my level of conversation.

  • 0 in reply to Billybob

    TBH, I see a bigger risk for Sophos business in the use of Home License on a Virtual Machine. It can be easily used in data center environment, and most home users will never use VMs in DCs.

    I would love to see a Home Use License for smaller XG WiFi appliances even if that would mean only web and wifi protections because these are the most important for use at home, but there is a problem many don't see. Each consumer product requires managing customer problems and there would be a lot of them. Imagine, people sometimes don't know how to connect an iPhone to the home network...

  • 0 in reply to Slawski

    Yes you are right.

    Regards

    Patryk

  • 0 in reply to Patryk Sidor

    Cześć Patryk,

    It's not the style of this community to attack others - Billybob has been a positive force here for many, many years and was not attacking you.  He was just expressing concern about making your result public without getting feedback from Sophos beforehand.  He's thoughtful and insightful and was discussing this issue.

    I see that Alan Toews has participated here.  He's one of the most-respected technical guys at Sophos, so I'm sure that he'll run this by the C-level.  Alan can delete your instructions or the whole thread if the company feels it's necessary.

    In any case, one can see that you're a talented technical writer, so I'm glad to see you participating here!

    Cheers - Bob

  • 0 in reply to Patryk Sidor

    Patryk Sidor said:
    You are 15 years old and you go to mom :)

    It’s not my level of conversation. 

    I understand english is not your first language so I am going to cut you some slack. But everybody understands what go to your mom means. I gave you a benefit of doubt that I was engaging with someone with basic etiquette. You on the other hand are a total buffoon. I don't care if you publish the exploit, I run my home instance in a vm. If you think running a serial cable to an appliance and setting the correct baud rate was invented by you, I can already imagine your level of expertise and you call yourself a teacher.

    Shame on you for coming on a technical forum and name calling when you have no other way to present your point of view. Maybe try google translate next time you have to insult someone so you don't come across as total imbecile.