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Where is V18 at?

rfcat_vk

Hi,

this request for an update on progress is for those of us that do not have access top partners/resllers.

Would some-one in the know who is allowed to provide progress on v18 please add to this thread.

I am not after guesses or conjecture, but real timelines (give or take a month).

Ian



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    Is there any news info related to XG Firewall v18 Overview?

    twitter.com/.../1166327066574434304

  • 0 in reply to bitiai

     

    Things should be just around the corner ,-)

  • 0 in reply to Big_Buck

    Big_Buck said:

    This slide do no tell everything.  But I do not think it was intended to do so.  It's a sale's pitch. 

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    Some comments.

    • Actionable log-viewer.  We will see.  To my opinion, log Viewer had to be re-written from a to z to my opinion.  Far from the gold standard Checkpoint is.   

    You sound like someone who should look for a new product. I can't even begin to wrap my head around how someone wants to seriously compare Checkpoint firewalls to Sophos firewalls. You're not going to get even close to what folks like Checkpoint or Palo Alto do with their stuff. Always remember, you get what you pay for. 

    Sophos is a cheap option and their product will never be able to compete with the big shots. 

    That being said, Checkpoint is hardly the gold standard anymore. Yes, they have a nice GUI and a good firewall management infrastructure, but boy is their code outdated. Palo Alto eat Checkpoint for breakfast. 

    Anyways, spare yourself the frustration and move on to something that can satisfy you. Sophos won't be it, unless you're a small to medium sized business. 

  • 0 in reply to cryptochrome

    Palo Alto is not in the UTM as far as I know.  They also have difficulties to be above average when in comes to Anti-Virus testers.  They have never scored at the top like Kasperksy, FSecure, Symantec, and Trend Micro consistently do months after months.

    By the way, this month on AV-Test.org, under protection, Sophos scores 5, while Microsoft Defender scores 6. Draw your conclusions.

    Paul Jr

  • 0 in reply to Big_Buck

    Big_Buck said:

    Palo Alto is not in the UTM as far as I know.  They also have difficulties to be above average when in comes to Anti-Virus testers.  They have never scored at the top like Kasperksy, FSecure, Symantec, and Trend Micro consistently do months after months.

    By the way, this month on AV-Test.org, under protection, Sophos scores 5, while Microsoft Defender scores 6. Draw your conclusions.

    Paul Jr

     

    You are comparing apples (antivirus) to oranges (firewalls). Palo Alto is the mother of all UTMs. Their founders founded Netscreen, which was the first UTM firewall on the market. When Netscreen was bought by Juniper, they left. Some of them founded Fortinet, the others founded Palo Alto. 

    From a technological point of view, Palo Alto have by far the most sophisticated "Layer 7" firewall on the market. Palo Alto came up with the term "Next Generation Firewalls" and they were the first to actually do full blown layer 7 firewalling as opposed to stateful packet inspection. And they do FAR more than just simple AV scanning like Sophos. 

  • 0 in reply to cryptochrome

    It is like people forgetting this is an SMB product and so long as your not trying to re-invent the wheel with it then it works nicely. Personally i find it so much nicer to work with than the old SG series. if you want Palo Alto levels of product....buy a Palo Alto. The XG isnt perfect by any means but its alot better than some other products and the fact ou can get one out of the box, online and basically working in less than 10 mins isnt bad. It would be nice if Sophos engaged a bit more with its community for the v18 firmware so they can get some real world feedback from here, simlar to the MS insiders system so they can fix some of the things that get missed with internal testing. AV side its not all about who tests the best, its about the whole product, thats why Gartner have given MS ATP the top spot above Sophos and Checkpoint, but Sophos is still well in the top quadrant and has been very good with its test results for years, Bitdefender always scores high on the test result but Gravityzone is Woefull to use in real life

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    JimtheITguy said:

    It is like people forgetting this is an SMB product and so long as your not trying to re-invent the wheel with it then it works nicely. Personally i find it so much nicer to work with than the old SG series. if you want Palo Alto levels of product....buy a Palo Alto.  

     

    In all fairness, it wasn't me who kept trying to compare Sophos firewalls to the big shots like Checkpoint and PA. In fact, I told the guy the same thing you just told me: If you want Checkpoint, buy Checkpoint. Don't expect Sophos to be Checkpoint.

    I love the XG, despite all its shortcomings and issues. I use it in my home office and I like it a lot. I would never ever put it in a datacenter or at the perimeter of an enterprise network though. That's just not their game. 

  • 0 in reply to cryptochrome

    I know it wasnt you :-D, I really like the product and with heartbeat auth now working well it makes a brilliant product for SMB's who need some control and security. Having jumped on board at v16 i have been through alot of the "OMGWTFBBQ" moments with firmware after firmware but actually other that a few moments with 17.5 its been pretty solid.I always poke fun at sophos about the XG at any expo they are at and the poor guys on the stands know where we are coming from but i do see the vision they want to build and that i am onboard for. Just switched my pfsense at home back over to an XG after a small break to test some stuff and alot of my customers run XG's now also with very few problems, also cant imagine PA or CP effectively giving away the product for home use like Sophos does.